- Non-vegan: lol You have, like, no protein.
- Me: Hahahaha, you're kidding right?
- Non-vegan: No. Most everything in a vegan diet is complex carbs, water soluble fiber, or legume-related. There's literally no substantial protein there.
- Me: Hahahaha. WOW. I find it's actually harder to NOT get protein than it is to get protein! See, there are these things called "essential amino acids." In order for something to be a "complete" protein, it must contain ALL of the amino acids. The only two complete proteins are meat and soy. Most vegan products are made from soy. Also, there are "incomplete proteins" which have some but not all of the essential amino acids. This includes all veggies, fruits, and most beans/nuts. You do not need every essential amino acid in every meal, you just need them every day. If a vegan/vegetarian eats a variety of fruits, veggies, beans and nuts, even without soy, he/she can get all of the essential protein they need. Cows need protein. Where do they get it from? The grass. Meat, dairy, and eggs are not the only sources for protein. For meat eaters, you are only supposed to eat TWO SERVINGS of meat PER WEEK. The problem with people today is that they are getting TOO MUCH PROTEIN.
- Me: Too much protein = obesity.
- Non-vegan: I went to school for nutrition. You don't have to preach. And there's a huge difference between plant and meat protein, seeing that the latter doesn't stay with the body long enough to be absorbed and converted into muscle. Conversely, protein does not and cannot make you obese. That's absurd. Look up the Atkins diet. I mean, almost all I eat are meats and vegetables, and I'm one of the fittest people I know @ 5'9" and 106 lbs. Inactivity, lack of hydration, and overall unhealthy lifestyles make one obese.
- Me: Too much protein is bad for the body. While it does not directly create obesity, it can indirectly lead to it. Interesting that you went to school for nutrition yet didn't know how vegans get their protein. What did they teach you?
Anonymous asked: This is purely out of curiosity, not trying to argue in any way as I see you've had some 'heated debates' :P I was just wondering when you said that your children will be vegan, if when they were older they decided that they didn't want to be vegan and wanted to choose what they ate, would you support that or would you find that very difficult? Just curiosity really, as I have family members who are also vegan, but have opted in to that so to speak rather than being raised vegan. :) xx
When it comes to parenting and raising children, I believe that you should raise them on your beliefs and values, because double standards confuse children. Then when they become older and break away from the pack to make their own decisions about what to believe and what to do, you respect that. Because you don’t want to raise carbon copies of yourself, which is impossible, and trying to do so will hurt your relationship with your children.
I was raised in an LDS home because my parents are LDS. I was raised eating meat because my parents eat meat. I was raised conservative because my parents are conservative. But now that I have started creating myself as a person, none of those things are true for me anymore. Luckily, my parents were very supportive of my decisions, and I plan on being the same way with my own children.
Anonymous asked: i will say that you're very clever with your words and even when you're saying a bunch of bullshit it still sounds convincing. it's mind blowing to me that you can compare a life of a human to a squirrel and say that they're equal. whenever you get around to having a kid, i'm sure you won't feel that way once it's born. you will have experienced the miracle (yes, MIRACLE) of childbirth and you'll look at your babies tiny fingers and toes and wonder how you could ever compare that to an animal.
I will love my child more than I love someone else’s child, just as I love my cat more than I love someone else’s child. I will not love my child more because he/she is human, I will love him/her because he/she is MY child. I would never compare my child to a non-human animal, just as I would never compare my child to any one else’s child. Do not mistake the beautiful maternal bond to species preference.
Perhaps my argument sounds convincing because it’s convincing, and not because of how it is written?
And really? You had to say (yes, MIRACLE)? You obviously have not read my blog, or you would know that I think pregnancy, childbirth, and motherhood are the most beautiful occurrences in all of existence, and that I want nothing more than to be a mother. It physically pains me that I am not. So you really didn’t need to patronize me like that.
Also, my children will be vegan, and will be taught that ALL life is equal, and the body/mind of a living being does not matter, it’s the soul that matters. They will not be taught the arrogant, piece-of-shit, attitude that one species is better than another. I wish to end specism, just as our ancestors fought to end racism.
Also, all of your arguments are INVALID, since you have chosen to state them ANONYMOUSLY. If you are really proud of your argument, you wouldn’t feel the need to spout it with a grey face. You would say it proudly.
Anonymous asked: "Every single living being has the desire to live." Plants are living, they desire to live too?
This is my least favourite argument of all. I hear this bullshit every day. I’m not even going to address it, because I’m sick of hearing it and it’s stupid.
Anonymous asked: animals just aren't capable of that. yes, they protect their young because they're programmed that way. humans are evil, arrogant, rude, and malicious, but that's only because that we have the capability to be good, humble, kind, and loving as well. i'm not saying that we as humans are so great and better than animals, i'm just saying that if i had to choose to save a life of a little girl and a thousand kittens, my choice wouldn't be very difficult.
You feel the need to protect that little girl over the kittens because she is of your species. That is a primal instinct, to protect your race. Mothers, human mothers, also feel the instinct to protect their young because “they are programmed that way.” We have the same instincts, but the only difference is that we have the ability to rise above them. That does not make us better. It’s purely biological. But every animal, in my mind, has a soul, and every soul is worth protecting.
Anonymous asked: stop it from attacking him. and how do you feel about animals attacking other animals, or even people? are they evil because they can kill on a whim? of course not. their animals. now people who can kill on a whim ARE evil because as a human they know better. us other humans get pissed when other humans kill because we love other people. even people we have never met or will never know personally.
“how do you feel about animals attacking other animals, or even people?” Non-human animals attack others for dietary, and other instinctual reasons. Humans attack each other for money, sex, property, etc. Non-human animals are pure in their mindsets. They attack because they were born to. We attack because we are greedy and selfish. Humans are the more evil ones. And it’s not just
“killing.” Humans kill, hurt, betray, lie, cheat, steal….animals hunt for food, kill for protection, and only attack when their instinct tells them to. There is never an underlying or manipulative reason behind an animal’s action.
